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the odds are crazy

What's he selling?

The "Sheets"

This book should definitely improve your handicapping.

An absolute "must" for anyone serious about horse racing

The Odds Must Be Crazy: Beating the Races with the Man Who Revolutionized Handicapping
Len Ragozin , Len Friedman , and Richard Steier
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the odds are crazy.......2006-01-14

Definitely worth reading, interesting views (not the normal speed, pace, bias, trip stuff). Wish book had more on handicapping however.

What's he selling?.......2006-01-07

This book seems to be more of a 200 page ad for Sheets than anything else. There are some entertaining elements and a little handicapping, but overall he seems to be stroking his ego and taking shots at Beyer's methods. The book is more of a commentary on Ragozin's life than insight into his methods.

The "Sheets".......2005-11-23

This is one of a few "must have" books for the serious handicapper. It explains the development of the racehorse in terms of speed. Rags has developed several angles that are now common racetrack jargon, such as the "bounce" and "looping back around" to a better back number. He explains several patterns of two year olds, then the three year olds, and finally older horses. Whether you buy the "sheets" or are a small better that uses the 50 cent track program, you will learn alot. Its a facinating read and I highly recommend it.

This book should definitely improve your handicapping........2002-07-01

You don't need to purchase The Sheets to benefit from Len Ragozin's insight. You may, as some have, find a way to incorporate his theories into your personal methodology. Understanding thoroughbred form cycles is critical to successful wagering and this book shows the way. But you will have to work a little to master the concepts he presents. Until Ragozin wrote this book I was mystified by the unpredictable declines and sudden rises in the performances of young horses. Now some of my best bets come in three year old races. And I don't subscribe to the expensive figures.
What I have learned is worth many times the purchase price.

An absolute "must" for anyone serious about horse racing.......1999-06-21

While Len Ragozin may, in part, be promoting his Sheet service, he does begin to impart very important information about the sport, handicapping, and some of the aspects of the game that necessitated the development of his number system. He actually does disclose how to develop the numbers, the problem is, partly, in getting the raw data that goes into them. Ultimately, it is the analysis of the numbers and the patterns combined with sound money management that offers the promise of success at the windows. Read the book. Adapt the handicapping principles to the information available from the Daily Racing Form, if you wish. One thing I think you will find is that Len Ragozin wants to share his knowledge and wisdom. The data, however, is for sale.

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Delightful and Inspiring! Molto Bello!

The Benign Dictator

The Benign Dictator

The Great Dictators: Interviews with Filmmakers of Italian Descent (Essay Series 42)
Angela Baldassarre
Manufacturer: Guernica Editions Inc.
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In 21 separate interviews Angela Baldassarre sheds light on what motivates film-makers in their work. Some of the film-makers interviewed: Roberto Benigni, Al Pacino, Bernardo Bertolucci, Gabriele Salvatores, Nanni Moretti, Stanley Tucci.

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Delightful and Inspiring! Molto Bello!.......2005-03-23

I loved reading her book about filmmakers with Italian heritage in their blood. And many of them are actually born and bred in Italy, and some of the conversaziones (interviews) were conducted in Italian and translated back into English by Baldassare. This book is titled in a funny way and it's not a terribly applicable title, which is probably one of the reasons it failed to do well on its initial run, because "great" or "poor" these are men of honor, and not dictators. Anyone who's been on a set on any of Steve Buscemi's films will know right away, he's a gentleman from the inside out, from the toes up as my grandfather used to say. Never a harsh word, nor a Fascist leaning, the opposite of what you think of as a dictator.

The surprise is learning that the aggravating Roberto Benigni has a thoughtful and reserved side to him. Of course, Ms. Baldassarre interviewed Benigni before he made PINOCCHIO, and perhaps the fame hadn't hit him yet. Remember him jumping up and down trying to look into Sophia Loren's cleavage the night he won the Oscar? Pathetic! And yet in this interview it's apparent he's familiar with Kierkegaard and Sartre and a dozen other philosophers. I did not realize that Franco Brusati wrote the screenplay for one of my favorite movies, Zeffirelli's ROMEO AND JULIET.

It was interesting to find out also that Don Coscarelli, the American auteur who made the PHANTASM movies, came from Libya like Moammar Gaddafi.

Now, there's a dictator for you!

But, why no women?

The Benign Dictator.......2000-02-14

At the recent launch of film critic Angela Baldassarre's The Great Dictators: Interviews with Filmmakers of Italian Descent Baldassarre gave heartfelt thanks to her parents for supporting her in pursuing a career in the precarious profession of freelance journalism, who never doubted her even when she was 19, "working in a bar and as a terrible private detective." The place erupted in laughter. The moment was indicative of Baldassarre's seamless blending of genuine emotion with playful humour. Her interviewing style in The Great Dictators comes across as insightful, provocative, and sensitive, both in timing and in the enlightened sense of the word. No doubt The Great Dictators will come to be well thumbed by film students. The cast of 20-odd directors (significantly?, there are no female subjects) is mouth-watering: Bernardo Bertolucci, Anthony Minghella, Al Pacino, Steve Buscemi and Dario Argento among others. It must have taken a sleuth of genius to compile a list like this! But the beauty of this collection is that anyone vaguely interested in understanding the human condition, outside at all of grappling with the technical niceties of filmmaking or listening in on in-house anecdotes, will be enchanted with the thoughts that unfold within. Italians have a wonderfully enlightened and expressive approach to studying the human heart, and their filmmakers are among their most articulate exponents of this enquiry. In a discussion with director and sometime scriptwriter Richard LaGravanese about his film Living Out Loud (1998) LaGravanese explains that he chose a female character for the lead role because he felt he could take a female lead more places creatively because a male "rarely gets angry." To which Baldassarre inquires, "You don't think that men get angry too?" LaGravanese's response is intriguing: "No, I think they express it in a different way. I think that men are deeply angry, they just don't know it. They're not as connected emotionally, and they have fewer outlets available to them than women. We've got to face it, we're not that well-rounded." Beautiful and measured metaphors spill off the pages. At one stage, Gabriele Salvatores - "who has never been married" - explains the reasoning behind his recent transition from theatre to film: "Theatre is like a marriage," he explains. "You have to keep rekindling the passion through long relationships. Cinema, on the other hand, is passion: brief, condensed. You gamble it all in a shorter period of time. "And in this particular moment in my life," he smiles coyly, "I'm less disposed towards marriage." Baldassarre introduces each interview with a subjective reflection or some background information. The intro piece for one of her interviews with Bertolucci (her favourite "living" director) is charming: "Few of us ever get the opportunity to meet a childhood idol. Not that I was exactly a child when I first discovered Bernardo Bertolucci, but at thirteen, having gone to see The Conformist with my junior-high class in Italy, I felt that I was being reborn into a new world. A world not just of images and sounds - which are typical of most films I'd seen until then - but of astounding thoughts and passion." But Baldassarre's gift as an interviewer is that she remains invisible as much as possible. The light never strays from her stars once the action begins - she interjects only at appropriate moments to tease the narrative along. The luck of her actors is that they had such a benign dictator to direct them.

The Benign Dictator.......2000-02-14

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The Euterpeiad, or, Musical intelligencer, 1820-1823 (ReÌpertoire international de la presse musicale)
Liesbeth Hoedemaeker
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In this signal work of history, Bancroft Prize winner and Pulitzer Prize finalist Lizabeth Cohen shows how the pursuit of prosperity after World War II fueled our pervasive consumer mentality and transformed American life.

Trumpeted as a means to promote the general welfare, mass consumption quickly outgrew its economic objectives and became synonymous with patriotism, social equality, and the American Dream. Material goods came to embody the promise of America, and the power of consumers to purchase everything from vacuum cleaners to convertibles gave rise to the power of citizens to purchase political influence and effect social change. Yet despite undeniable successes and unprecedented affluence, mass consumption also fostered economic inequality and the fracturing of society along gender, class, and racial lines. In charting the complex legacy of our “Consumers’ Republic” Lizabeth Cohen has written a bold, encompassing, and profoundly influential book.

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Mediocre, repetitive, irrelevamt.......2005-09-01

"A Consumers' Republic" is one of those kinds of books that exists on the premise that it illuminates some previously unknown phenomenon. The book purports to be a "bold, encompassing, and profoundly influential book." I humbly propose that this book is none of the above. "A Consumers' Republic" is certainly not a "bold" book. Quite tepidly, actually, the author makes a weak case that is essentially a rehashing (and a mediocre one at that) of mainstream academic criticisms of popular market culture. Certianly nothing new, the ideas lamely presented by this author were actually prefigured by a factor of centuries by actual scholars such as Smith, Marx, and de Toqueville. Not bold for sure, but also lacking nuance; "A Consumers' Republic" condescends to its readers and its subjects alike. And is this book "profoundly influential," as the jacket pompously asserts? I hope not.

Fascinating history, though stodgy at times.......2005-03-21

I defer to the thorough review titled "Consumption and Greed" below for a synopsis of this book.

The subject matter of "A Consumers' Republic" is engrossing and the book reveals many truths that are now forgotten and swept under the rug. Cohen uses an impressive plethora of examples to demonstrate her points, and in the end I know much more about the United States' economic and social history from the 30's to the present.

Unfortuntately, Cohen's writing often becomes convoluted and difficult to read due to frequent lengthy and difficult to follow sentences. While reading, many times I had to re-read a sentence or paragraph in order to grasp the author's intent. A few times I even wanted to put the book down and pick up a less academic book - perhaps some fiction - to give my eyes and brain a break. Much of the book is well written and flows well, but these occasional roadblocks require determination to get through and prove frustrating. However, having finished this yesterday, I'm happy I persevered. The incredible amount of research and well thought out and supported thesis' are worth five stars, but the writing brings it down to four stars.

"consumer's ranks could include both everyone and no one".......2005-02-10

The above quote from the book reveals its fundamental problem. Consumerism is stretched to include (for example) racial equality, housing policy, and politics: this dulls any edge the concept might have as an analytic tool. What is a consumer? We're told "the word's original meaning" - - "to devour, waste and spend" - - but not its current one. The author tries to distinguish between the "citizen consumer" and "purchaser consumer". The supposed dichotomy between these roles was no more obvious to me than to those consumer advocates who - - to the author's apparent surprise - - "found it possible to endorse both simultaneously".

So the book is a kind of grab bag of the USA's post-war social problems, often using the author's home state as an example. At times, she seems on the verge of dissecting New Jersey as Mike Davis does Los Angeles (high praise from me), but never quite sustains such a level. For example, there's a fascinating account of how policies of "upzoning" were used to create homogeneous suburbs of large, expensive, detached houses. But when explaining how this led to racial polarization - - in an era of supposed desegregration - - she can only show us the 'after' map, not the 'before'. However, the use of photos, advertisements, and newspaper cartoons is exemplary: often amusing, sometimes shocking.

Towards the end of the book, the author finds it necessary to expand the concept of "consumer" to "consumer/citizen", and finally to "consumer/citizen/taxpayer/voter": a clear sign of a dead end. On the final page, her vision is vague and feeble: we "could reinvigorate the liberating aspects of the purchaser" and "could seek to reverse the trend toward the Consumerization of the Republic by not shrinking from articulating the important things that only government can do". Hardly a programme of action. But maybe that's too much to expect.

A remarkable piece of research.......2004-02-02

Lizabeth Cohen's "A Consumers' Republic" does much to explain how citizenship has been significantly redefined by consumerism in postwar America. The thoroughly readable book is full of insights and should interest all readers of 20th century American history. It will also prompt many to ponder how America might try to heal its frayed society while there is time available to do so.

In the Acknowledgements, Ms. Cohen explains that this impressive book was written over the course of ten years. Her thesis profited from audience feedback at numerous college lectures and presentations she made during this time and with able assistance from a number of talented student researchers. With over 400 pages of text and 100 pages of notes, the book represents a remarkable achievement and is a testament to Ms. Cohen's intelligent use of the academic research process.

Ms. Cohen is in top form when she chronicles the struggles of women and African-Americans to assert their rights in what she calls the "Consumers' Republic" of 1945 to 1975. The author provides background material by documenting how a variety of bread-and-butter consumer issues mobilized millions into action from the Depression through WWII. Ms. Cohen then shows how power gained by women and minorities through their contributions to the war effort later found expression in the Civil Rights, women's liberation and other movements of the 1950s and 1960s.

However, Ms. Cohen explains that policy makers in the aftermath of WWII were influenced and corrupted by, among other things, unparalleled levels of corporate power and ideological rivalry with the Soviet Union. Mass consumption was seen as a solution to help keep manufacturing profits high and was propagandized in order prove to the world that the U.S. was practically a classless society. The reality was different, of course. The author discusses how racial, gender and class biases were reaffirmed and institutionalized by the GI Bill and other legislative acts. As a result of Ms. Cohen's extraordinary research, the reader comes to understand that the increasingly stratified post-WWII American society that resulted was not inevitable but was shaped by powerful interests who privileged private sector solutions at the expense of the public.

In my view, the only shortcomings in this ambitious book are Ms. Cohen's failure to discuss the environmental consequences of consumerism and her omission of the student revolt against the military/industrial complex in the 1960s. But overall, these are minor quibbles. "A Consumers' Republic" delivers plenty of thought-provoking material and is a pleasure to read. The book is highly recommended to everyone who might want to gain perspective on contemporary American society and further consider where it might be headed.

A must read for students of American history & marketing........2003-08-08

To say you are an America is to say that you are, de facto, a consumer.

This word is a defining aspect of our American world... Consumerism covers daily life, whether it be drug discounts, tourism, marketers, insurance, cars, homes, technology or just plain old product reviews. We Americans are defined by our consumption.

Lizabeth Cohen has given us a thoroughly researched, readable history on consumerism, and how it came to be such a force and part of our lives in America. She argues that after WWII the "Consumer Republic" was launched, full force, affecting life styles, government and even belief systems. Though the beginning of a consumers movement had occurred before 1940, the "Consumer Republic" took form and force after the second world war.

Cohen's writing style is informative, to the point of being academic. "A Consumers' Republic" is a history book. Thus, it may be a bit more pedantic than most general readers would like.

I found a few omissions that distracted from the overall excellence of the book. One being that Cohen does not investigate how consumerism has been incorporated into, and seriously affected, American Christianity. She does not address how Christianity, especially considering the `Protestant work ethic', helped to shaped and drive consumerism into being. She does not explore `why' Americans live to consume, "shop til they drop." Neither does she reflect on the effects that unbridled consumption have on both the social fabric of our nation or the ecological impact on our land.

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From Citizen to Consumer.(Book Review): An article from: Policy Review
Elizabeth Arens
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Here's a new kind of Bible study: a lively, deep, personal look at some of the Old Testament's most powerful—and intriguing—women. From Sarah, who was unafraid to nudge God into action; to Hagar, whose courage and passion founded a whole nation; to Judith, woman and warrior whose faith saved God's people, readers will examine the stories of biblical women up close. As they to read between the lines, readers will learn to use Bible stories to throw light on the stories of their own lives.

Each chapter will include questions for discussion and reflection, making this an ideal parish study book, or the perfect volume for Lenten meditation.

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An exciting account of a little-known, yet vital part of World War II, the Allied effort to blockade Axis forces in North Africa with a relatively small number of planes and submarines included some of the war's most spectacular air battles, and opened the way to the attack on Fortress Europe from the south. This is the first book-length treatment of the crucial struggle to cut Axis supply lines in the Tunisian campaign of 1942-1943, a battle often ignored or played down even by official historians. The campaign marked the first big U.S. victory against the Axis powers and served as a proving ground for several top Allied commanders. This study fills an important gap in the history of the war, reevaluating the development of Allied airpower and the role of Italy in the campaign. Allied success in interdiction was a critical factor in the greatest Allied victory in the Mediterranean campaign, a victory which left the enemy so weakened that it could not stop the subsequent invasion of Europe from the south. Despite initial disorganization and early disappointments, the British waged one of only two successful submarine campaigns ever fought. This study describes some of the war's most amazing air battles, notably "Operation Flax" against the enemy's air transport fleet, and attacks on convoys, all interwoven with the events of the ground war in the desert and comparisons with the Pacific effort. It details the struggle to reorganize and improve the Allied effort, the belated success of "sea sweeps" against enemy ships, and the final victory in the spring of 1943, in which an air blockade was clamped on the sea and sky approaches to Tunisia.

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Can this country survive another Clinton presidency? Two terms of “Slick Willy” were bad enough. Now, numerous political experts and people close to the Clinton family hint that Hillary is plotting to retake the White House and ring in another four—or eight—years of a Clinton as commander in chief.

She denies any presidential bid is in the works. But a few years before she entered the Senate race, Hillary claimed she would never run for any elective office whatsoever.

In shocking detail, Hillary’s Scheme confirms the worst fear of tens of millions of Americans: that Hillary Clinton indeed plans to run for president within the next few years. This explosive, behind-the-scenes book by investigative journalist Carl Limbacher blows the lid off the New York senator’s plans for a grand political coup, something she has been carefully and quietly plotting for more than 20 years. Limbacher conducted extensive research into Hillary’s past and secured exclusive interviews with Clinton insiders—and even questioned Hillary herself—to bring you the real story. What he uncovers are the truly juicy morsels, the backroom deals, and the insider wrangling around Hillary’s presidential ambitions that aren’t being reported in the mainstream press. If you love to hate Hillary or are just curious about one of America’s most controversial figures, there’s plenty in this book to get your blood boiling. You’ll discover the answers to questions Hillary is unwilling to address in public, including:

Why is she not likely to wait until 2008 to enter the race for president?

How did she torpedo Al Gore’s chances for a rematch with President Bush?

Where are the millions of dollars she’s supposedly raising for the Democratic Party really going?

Why does she dodge tough questions about her husband’s abysmal record on fighting international terrorism?

And many, many more!

If you don’t think that Hillary Clinton has a fighting chance to win the presidency, you must read this book. With startling prescience, Limbacher draws parallels between today’s political environment and that which existed in 1992—the year George H. W. Bush lost the race to an upstart governor from Arkansas. You don’t need to be a member of the “vast right-wing conspiracy” or even a Republican to be concerned about what Hillary in the White House would mean for the presidency, the Constitution, and America as we know it.

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must read.......2007-06-13

A must read not because it is the best book written. A must read because America needs to know what it could be getting itself into voting for Hilary.

Telling part of the story.......2007-05-17

This is an informative book, but does not tell all of the story about Hillary. No mainstream author or publisher is very likely to do so, either. There are certain unwritten rules of journalism in America that operate to limit how much will be told about someone, even when that someone is a public figure. A book presented as fiction, but which does tell a very similar, and much more complete, story is Dr. Richard Little's book entitled The Empress Project. Some reviewers seem to believe that book is an attempt to connect dots in a way that no other book, not even this nice book by Carl Limbacher, has done.The Empress Project

why she will run in 2004!.......2007-02-05

`In Fact, it's astonishing that anyone believes Mrs. Clinton's denials that she'd consider running in 2004, given the wealth of evidence that she's planning for just that contgingency'

I know it's hindsight, but Limbacher was so very wrong here. He even quotes some people who say she won't and ridicules them, even though they were right.

He's biased, a clinton/hater and thinks the entire media is liberal/biased.

Now some plus points
1. Some of the facts are quite scary and if they are true, and I kinda fear some of them have some truth in them, they will be the characteristics of maybe the new President. Nothing new though. There are many notes in the back as well to look up the sources, which leads you to believe it might be right, even though most sources seems to be other right/wing media outlets.

It is a funny book however and well worth a read.

Flawless analysis from an objective journalist.......2005-12-26

In this brilliant book, Carl Limbacher uses sharp analysis and well-documented sources to craft an airtight case that Hillary will undeniably be running for president in 2004. Limbacher thankfully does not let petty partisanship color his analysis, since such bias could conceivably lead to an incorrect conclusion. Limbacher puts to rest any suspicion that writing for the far-right publication Newsmax could interfere with making objective, sound judgements and predictions.

Some would argue that, since it is already 2005, it is a little late for Hillary to run for president in 2004, thus casting some doubt upon the claims of this book. These people are clearly wrong, and are obviously falling for Hillary's scheme. If anyone is crafty enough to win the 2004 election well after the election has already happened, it is Hillary. One underestimates her crafty schemes to their peril.

In short, anyone interested in knowing whether Hillary will run for president in 2004 is well advised to read this book. Having become quite a fan of Limbacher's astute forecasting, I am really looking forward to his upcoming book, "Harriet Miers: A Triumphant Ascent to the Supreme Court".

For the good of Hillary or the good of the country?.......2005-08-03

Limbacher has put together an excellent analysis of what Hillary has been all about and what is behind the actions she has taken in the past and what will influence what she will do in the future.
Keep in mind,this book was published in 2003,and many might think that since the 2004 election has come and gone;it is a waste of time reading this book.Au contraire,Hillary is the same person with the same motives at work and it is even clearer to see through her now than it was 2,3 or 4 years ago.
The problem that Limbacher had with trying to figure out if Hillary would take her run at the Presidency was that Hillary couldn't have told him herself;even if she wanted to.She does not operate on any logical principles;only on what will serve her own interest at the time.This book alone, shows that to be the case time after time.Since she can't predict the outcome of events any better,and would never commit herself to a stand on any issue;her modis- operendi can only be to obstruct anything that might hinder her goal and stand back and abide her time until what she seeks is handed to her on a platter.
The Clintons have an iron clad hold on the Democratic party,and what the party does will only be what in in the best interest of the Clinton,s and whether that is in the best interests of the Party or the Country is a mute point.All one has to do is look at the past.
Haq Clinton stepped aside at the time of his scandle,Gore would have become his replacement,completed Bill's term and as an incumbent would have easily won the Presidency and maybe even a second term.How would that have benefited the Clintons? It wouldn't have,it would have benefited Gore and the Party not the Clintons, and that is the point.Again,in the year leading up to the 2004 election Hillary,took no stand on any major issue ,put herself behind no candidate,except tentative support to anyone who would keep the Party from concealing strength with one candidate.Since she concluded she could'nt win against Bush,her only hope was that nobody else would.If it happened,that would be the end of the Clintons,,possibly for two terms and that is an eternity in politics.As the election approached the final months, and while the debates seemed to favor Kerry,emphoria over expectations of winning was running rampant throughout the Party,the Clinton's presence became obvious by the absence of their involvement. This must have been frightful days for Hillary until Bush won and the election that she side stepped was over and done.
So what next? Nothing has changed;Hillary will bide her time,take no positions,make no decisions,keep her agenda to herself,obvious as it is,pretend to be all things to all people,and hope that by the time 2007 rolls around that the voters will forget the Clintons past,and if they still hold the Party in their grip;she will have the nomination,otherwise the Clinton's reign will in fact have ended in 2001.
It's all there in this book and easily seen if one wants to know what motivated and continues to motivate both Bill and Hillary.There's going to be more books like this one in the next couple of years.Look at the Customer Reviews on "The Truth about Hillary" by Edward Klein,and its still 2 years before the action is in full swing for 2008.
It's a Guarantee Hillary can hang in if you can;it's going to be interesting!

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